Don't be stoopid.

A member of this board has left because he thought people were attacking him personally. Yet, this board member was loved by many in here (including me), in fact so loved that he is the very first MVP of the board.

It's hard to believe that this board member, in a previous life, was a salesman. I was a salesman in one of my previous lives and one thing outside sales gives you is a THICK skin. If you can't develop a thick skin then you're looking for another occupation.

If you want to be an INFOpreneur, like this former board member wants to be, then you would be stoopid to leave this board. Fortin's board has incredible POWER!

I remember this former board member jumping on my case when I said the above. His ego would not let him believe that it wasn't all due to his efforts. The traffic he generated for his website would have cost him thousands, if not tens of thousands of dollars if he used PPC. He got all of his traffic for FREE by posting on this board (and a few others).

Don't believe me? Here's a simple experiment I tried the other week. . .

I posted a new thread in the article section a couple of weeks ago. Then, a week later, I went to alexa.com and entered my test site. Here are the results:



Note the HUGE drop in the Alexa ranking after posting just ONE article to FORTIN's board. Can you imagine your Alexa ranking if you were posting articles on a weekly basis? Can you imagine your Alexa ranking if you were posting articles on a daily basis. . .or two or three like this former board member was doing? Yet, this former board member thought that it was all due to HIS hard work. He was riding on the back of a 500 pound internet gorilla's website.

Here's some more proof FORTIN's board is a 500 pound internet gorilla website. Today I Googled the title of my article that appeared on this board:



It comes up as NUMBER ONE. It's not my site that comes up as NUMBER ONE it's FORTIN's. That's the incredible power of this site. I had little to do with the ranking, but I can benefit from the FREE traffic if and when I decide to monitize my website.

So if you're an INFOpreneur. . .or a future INFOpreneur, don't be STOOPID. . .put your EGO aside and understand the incredible POWER of Fortin's board.

Mr. Subtle,

I agree. In fact, I've been planning to write a few articles myself and post them here (among other places). It's a matter of time management.

While I could crank out lots of articles after the kiddos go to bed at night, I'm more apt to take a week or so to write a quality draft, do a little more research, and try to find some unique angle.

I like Alan Forrest Smith's idea of being different. I want to contribute something positive to my field, particularly since I eventually want to go into success coaching. I see a lot of articles that have good information, but it seems like I'm reading the same stuff over and over again.

It's fun to Google yourself. I wrote an essay and poem during a workshop six years ago, and both of them are still online.

Great post.

Ahhh, Mr. Subtle, you and your brainfarts exude the fragrant stench of genius!

Awesome post!

John

PS: I think a I hear the distant thundering of a herd of Pikers heading this way!

I agree with you Mrsubtile, even my broken English language:

"stupid act II" that I posted last week is 2 on 25 400 000.
"Human writing" position 3 on 124 000 000.
"a moment for a friend" position 10 on 124 000 000.

etc ...

but the important is the content, I enjoyed to post them here and I enjoyed that poeple read them.

if they are ranked this is purely cosed by this forum no other SEO, and believe me , i havn't used targeted words or any thing, I tried just to write the correct one regarding to my english level.

again this board is realy powerfull, I agree 100% with my superheros.

Heck, I have no problem with someone posting articles to this forum in general... The trouble begins when someone post articles, not for the benefit of the membership, but for their own marketing purposes-- in other words they're trolling for clients either directly through their posting patterns on the forum or indirectly through search engine positioning.

I don't really have any trouble with that. Usually the articles carry enough value so I don't feel dirty and used. Except with JayKay's toons.

Andy

Mr. Subtle all I can say is summed up in one word, "wow!".

I had no idea Google valued any forum so highly.

I've not come here "trolling" but to learn from those of you with greater experience.

In fact, over the weekend I started taking points from many of the posts about getting clients, improving seo rank, etc and adding them to mind maps. If there are no interruptions in my week I hope by friday to have collected enough stuff to get busy with an actionable game plan based on what members have found effective.

How much of it will I try? All of it.

Just like Mr. Morgan said, we need to put multiple lines out there.

Anyhow, I've lurked here for the better part of a year and have NEVER posted an article to the forum. Why?

Intimidation.

There are way too many people here who know far more than me and I'd imagine short of any independent surveys I might conduct, much of what I find out someone here (probably almost everyone here) already knew.

I'm sure that'll change in the future though.

Nonetheless your post makes it blatantly obvious that leaving this board IS a mistake for anyone serious about marketing their business. Either from a promotional standpoint or from an educational one.

Without naming names or throwing mud at anyone in partiicular, I hope the lesson learned from all this is to maintain professionalism and avoid getting heated in forums. No one benefits from anger or hostility -- even when provoked.

More than once I've put my foot in my mouth online and wished I could roll back time.

I recall telling a nationally known author never to email or phone me ever again because of trying to manipulate me into doing major consulting work for free -- right after telling me how they ripped off another consultant and swiped all their stuff without paying.

Not that telling the author to go away was bad, it's the way I handled it. If I could ever take back words I would. I burned that bridge and can never use that person as a referral source or as a testimonial for work I did do.

My loss.

There's a lesson here for all of us to remain professional at all times and not to burn bridges. No matter how others behave online.

Thanks Mr. Subtle for going to so much effort to show all of us the value of staying here -- and participating.

Andre

HEY...HEY...hey. . .I resemble that remark!

I understand MichaelWinicki vision.

I can't speak for others, for my self, my post are for this forum and nothing else.

in my vision a simple: "thank you I enjoyed reading it", or "Oh yes I agree", or "Boy I disgree", or a true honest and impuilssive "Ethna eruptif words", make my day.

it is not about ranking or traffic, it is about helping, and sharing a thougth, BUT whern doing this some thing help your BUS don't say I dislike.

the Important is the INTENTION.

PS:I have to confess that many Jaykay's Cartoon are more rich and explisite and usefull then many of my long (drug trip) post
(Tim I enjoy the label).

The reason you will get a decent Alexa ranking is because most
of the people on this board have the Alexa toolbar downloaded,
and therefore any site will get decent rankings with Alexa.

It's the same with any decent traffic board that has to do with
marketing.

Heck, I don't do jack on my blog and it's up to about 95,000 on
Alexa.