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Posts: 1,474 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Guilderland, NY Rep Power: 0 | Marketing On MySpace -
01-16-2007, 08:22 AM
The Truth About Marketing On MySpace
Newsflash: Marketing your products and services on MySpace.com will NOT work.
Why? Well first of all, it's against their Terms of Service (TOS) which clearly states:
"The MySpace Services are for the personal use of Members only and may not be used in connection with any commercial endeavors except those that are specifically endorsed or approved by MySpace.com. Illegal and/or unauthorized use of the MySpace Services, including collecting usernames and/or email addresses of Members by electronic or other means for the purpose of sending unsolicited email or unauthorized framing of or linking to the MySpace Website is prohibited. Commercial advertisements, affiliate links, and other forms of solicitation may be removed from Member profiles without notice and may result in termination of Membership privileges. Appropriate legal action will be taken for any illegal or unauthorized use of the MySpace Services."
That rule is pretty "cut-and-dried" isn't it?
However, the aforementioned rule is not the reason why marketing on MySpace doesn't work. No, it's more complicated than that. It has to do with the "apples and oranges" concept.
Let me explain:
According to comScore Media Metrix. MySpace has about 100 million registered users, about 90 percent in the United States.
Their primary demographic is about a 50/50 split between males and females, ages 16 to 34. However, a common misconception is that MySpace is primarily made up of kids and teens. In fact, 80 percent of the audience is above 18. MySpace's 30-plus demographic is its fastest-growing group. (Source: ClickZ Network)
Regarding the apples and oranges concept: According to branding expert Rob Frankel, "MySpace has only one thing really going for it: eyeballs. Lots of eyeballs. But simply having eyeballs isn't nearly enough. If you recall, that's the mistake people made which led to the Internet bubble bursting. Just because you have tons of people doesn't mean you have an audience.
Witness the demise of women.com and other domains that were supposedly gathering spots for people. It doesn't work that way. For a community to really succeed, it must have four elements:
A. A central, specific common interest among its users
B. A means of generating revenue through that interest (brand strategy)
C. A system to establish its credibility
D. A strong, visible leader to manage the community
MySpace in particular has none of these. The users are free to create multiple personalities. There is no verification of anything. There are no true means to focus any users into any kind of channels. There are no user-driven revenue sources. There are no leaders or managers - it's a rudderless ghost ship with the inmates running the asylum, so any business either having a page or advertising there is simply taking shots in the dark."
In closing, if anyone tells you marketing on Myspace works, I challenge them to prove it, by showing real, data-driven documentation that their MySpace marketing program did anything to improve sales and/or inquiries.
Dale King is the owner of the new Internet marketing website, Guruknowledge.org
Last edited by Dale King; 01-16-2007 at 09:00 AM.
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Posts: 326 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Rep Power: 3 | Re: Marketing On MySpace -
01-16-2007, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dale King In closing, if anyone tells you marketing on Myspace works, I challenge them to prove it, by showing real, data-driven documentation that their MySpace marketing program did anything to improve sales and/or inquiries. | Without targeting viable niches, I fully agree that it doesn't "work." That being said, I've obtained paying clients who approached me because of my myspace page. A member of my mastermind group specializes in real estate investing. She broadcast an offer to her myspace "friends" in that niche and earned five figures with that one mailing.
For some direct response stuff, take a look at Michel Fortin's opt-in and Tellman Knudson's video infomercial on their respective pages.
Regards,
-Mike Internet Law and Business Blog
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01-17-2007, 04:00 AM
I have the worst looking Myspace on the planet! Does it work for my business? YES ... it has created a strong network of new leads, new clients and increased my visability.
Works for me
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01-17-2007, 06:48 AM
If myspace doesn't work, don't tell folks like Michel Fortin, Brad Fallon, Joel Comm, Mike Filsaime, and a whole host of other mega marketers and colossal copywriters...
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01-17-2007, 07:39 AM
Dale
Do a search for the 15K Challenge in 30 days.
Dan failed - and I think he had to do a streak in a public place
somewhere because of the bet that was struck.
BUT...
He did make something like 12K from MySpace traffic
I believe.
cheers
Mark "You're Just One Good Sales Letter
Away From Massive Success"
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Posts: 1,474 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Guilderland, NY Rep Power: 0 | Re: Marketing On MySpace -
01-17-2007, 08:54 AM
Since a couple of you have elected to speak for Michel Fortin, I decided to go straight to the source for his take on MySpace. Here's what Michel posted on November 4, 2006: Quote:
To me, MySpace is like Yellow Pages. Great to be in it as a backup. Not necessarily a hot tool for business in a direct sense. Here's my profile: www.myspace.com/michelfortin
Michel Fortin | But wait, there's more... Quote:
I guess it's ok as a community-based network, but as far as turning it into a "cash-cow", I don't think so.
Warm regards,
Stephen Davies | Dale King
Last edited by Dale King; 01-17-2007 at 09:04 AM.
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01-17-2007, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dale King Since a couple of you have elected to speak for Michel Fortin | Dale,
I referenced Michel's page (opt-in), and that of Tellman Knudson (video infomercial), as examples of good myspace layouts. Did not elect to speak for Michel re: earnings from the same.
Will let you and others debate the issue of income from the site. Have already conveyed my sentiments on the same in the prior post.
Have a great day.
Regards,
-Mike Internet Law and Business Blog
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Posts: 1,474 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Guilderland, NY Rep Power: 0 | Re: Marketing On MySpace -
01-17-2007, 09:17 AM
Michael:
I'm happy to hear you're having success on MySpace. Good for you - and I mean that sincerely.
However, in addition to my own research, I also interviewed some heavyweight marketers, before I wrote the article, because I wanted to get some opposing viewpoints.
For the most part, their feelings about marketing on MySpace were the same as mine - although a couple of them did say, MySpace was good for networking.
Obviously, there are few exceptions to the rule, regarding successfully marketing on MySpace.
However, generally speaking, marketing on MySpace just isn't that effective.
Dale King
Last edited by Dale King; 01-17-2007 at 09:24 AM.
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01-17-2007, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Dale King
However, generally speaking, marketing on MySpace just isn't that effective.
Dale King | Dale, for the sake of this topic what is your definition of marketing? A common agreed upon definition would lead to a more productive debate. Some interesting thoughts so far. Regards,
Lance "If you can lay your head on your pillow each night knowing you gave hundred per cent to your day, success will find you." -- Russell L. Mason | | | | | Banned
Posts: 1,474 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Guilderland, NY Rep Power: 0 | Re: Marketing On MySpace -
01-17-2007, 10:29 AM
Lance, based on the responses to this thread so far, everyone knows exactly what I'm referring to when I use the term "marketing."
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