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Default Pipeline Profits... Warning! - 01-14-2007, 07:50 AM

Hi Guys

I have an insiders warning I think you should read...

A lot of you have probably seen emails going out from many big names promoting the new Pipeline Profits system.

I had the opportunity to sign-up as an early member myself, a couple of months ago before they went 100% public, and I felt to shine some light on what it's all about. Because it is a mixed bag...

For some experienced marketers - it will be a gift from Heaven and will totally blow you away, and if used correctly, can make you very, very wealthy, very quickly.

(It's no wonder that many top marketers are quietly getting involved right now) but...

For many others (probably the majority) it will be a big frustration, probably a loss of time, or worse...

The reality is that for most online marketers this opportunity is too advanced, and too *BIG* to handle (you really need cash flow). There are a lot of barriers to entry and getting rolling that are going to trip most work-from-home marketers up (I'll explain below).

If you don't know what Pipeline Profits is - or what I'm talking about - you can see the actual 47 minute video presentation that was given at an exclusive seminar a couple of months ago. It is a rock-solid presentation (blew me away personally) - not just a tease - watch it:

http://introduction.pipeline-profits.com

It's all about generating MASSIVE opt-in lists, very quickly, through a process called co-registration (aka co-reg).

This is the opt-in playground of the mega-brands online, and until now has been generally considered undesired territory by most direct marketers, because the numbers were so big, and so hard to convert to a profit. Until recently, most marketers who actually tried to tap this source of mega opt-in traffic would get burned deep, hard, and fast.

Co-Reg traffic was considered a kind of online mine-field ready to blow away online businesses who went there, at the drop of a dime. This was in part because Co-Reg required a massive entry expense to get started.

(Many BIG brand name companies continue to this day to just blow millions in Co-reg, without worrying about conversion, to develop *brand awareness*).

The Pipeline Profits System now explains how to crack the Co-Reg success code for the first time. If you have even just a little experience with marketing, you can easily see how this is very exciting (just watch the video above!). Just don't let the pumping heart blind you because it is NOT easy...

The numbers can be so big and so fast, that if you don't have ALL the details carefully lined up, you could easily lose your shirt... in ONE day!

The flip side is true: get it ALL right and you make an insane amount of money on auto-pilot!

If you are a veteran direct marketer, and you are already talented with PPC style marketing, email AR marketing, you are comfortable with large sums of money moving in and out of your hands, you understand conversion, copywriting, affiliate marketing, and you know how to monitor results carefully, then you should definitely watch the video above and make sure you get in when they open the doors.

If you are not an expert online marketer - but are just excited about the potential (because it is exciting!) - then be careful! This really may not be for you. Most online marketers are tight niche marketers, but this system will generally NOT work for small niches.

It's a monster!

It is much more suited to hard-nosed marketers who don't mind getting in there, swinging big, and romping with the big dogs in the bigger themes. Like any big business - the courageous entrepreneurial spirit is not a maybe - it's required.

Now, regarding the founders, Buck Rizvi and Brock Felt - from all that I've seen from the inside, they are very straightforward guys and are doing their honest best to make this work for all their current members. Despite this dedication from them, I get the impression from the inside forums that many early members are in over their heads and struggling in the fast moving waters. This system is just revealing itself to be too big for their level of online business in this moment.

My last comment is this...

I don't know how many members they plan on taking - but I know it will sell out super fast when it goes live.

As an early-bird Pipeline Profit member, I'm glad that it is a difficult process to get rolling successfully, because that means that the competition will remain relatively thin even after a fast sell out.

In time though, like everything else online - this mega opportunity is going to evolve - just like SEO, PPC, Adsense, and dozens of other forms of online marketing evolved. My guess is it will swing to become easier and less difficult to enter for a while (1 year... 2 max) - then the competition will grow, and it will probably go in the direction that PPC has gone now - much more difficult.

My guess is we have 1-2 years to tap this now and ride it for what it's worth. Copywriters will have an advantage here as the numbers require good conversions to survive.

I'm not an expert yet on Co-Reg (I'm currently setting up some of my own co-reg promotions), but if anybody here wants general info from me about this system because you are interested in it for yourself, then I'd be happy to speak with you - either openly here - or in private.

Hope this helps some enquiring minds to either save some hard-earned cash or make a fortune!

Tim

P.S. I obviously can't share any of their system secrets, or insider Roledex info that they offer to members, so please don't ask about that. Thanks.
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Default Re: Pipeline Profits... Warning! - 01-14-2007, 11:47 AM

Tim, your post is a great piece of copy by itself.


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Default Re: Pipeline Profits... Warning! - 01-15-2007, 08:48 PM

Nice takeway selling, etc. I also see your running PPC to this forum post, they must be paying a great commision!


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Default Re: Pipeline Profits... Warning! - 01-17-2007, 12:49 AM

Tim,

Thanks for your view point of the company.

Just have a few question for you.

Would a product thats lets say $50 profit per sale, work with co reg in your opinion? Lets say its about weight loss.

Do you think that brock and buck will be able to handle 500 people. Does the tools they provide give you enough info or do you need their personal help?

Does the system cover all basis from ads to AR emails to lead capture pages?

Do you think that being a PPS member you will get discounts from brokers on leads that are worth while to pay the $3k or less to join?

Thanks,

Kevin
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Default Re: Pipeline Profits... Warning! - 01-17-2007, 04:31 AM

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Would a product thats lets say $50 profit per sale, work with co reg in your opinion? Lets say its about weight loss.
The short answer is: yes - a product with a $50 profit can potentially work.

I am personally working on a co-reg campaign that has the entry product with a $20 profit margin. I've tested this product though and it has shown to have outrageously high conversion rates. Then we have an incredible line of back-end products...

The longer answer is: it would work MUCH better if this were your entry level product, because then even if you only break even on the front end (to keep yourself floating with cash flow) - you can still make a very substantial profit with back-end products.

Depending on only one product means you have to have a higher initial conversion rate to make money. In my opinion, members getting the conversions they need to profit is where most are going to struggle. Marketers who are good at this will thrive.

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Do you think that brock and buck will be able to handle 500 people.
I can't speak for them - but from what I've seen, they are very proactive and solution oriented guys - so if they find they have a problem with their customers - they actively look for solutions.

There is a lot of support on a community level within the forum - so this will help. Those who will really benefit from this system are those who don't need Buck and Brock's handholding - they just need to glance at the system blueprint - and they're off to make a fortune.

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Does the tools they provide give you enough info or do you need their personal help?
This will be different for each person. This is advanced level marketing - but regarding the Co-Reg part, they cover all that is needed.

For many marketers - they'll be up and running very quickly because they are experienced with selling products online - many others might struggle because they have never sold a product before (and don't have one to sell now).

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Does the system cover all basis from ads to AR emails to lead capture pages?
Most is covered - examples of winning offers, ads, emails, etc are shown (plus some of the strategies behind why they are written the way they are written) - but don't expect to become top level copywriter yourself through this course.

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Do you think that being a PPS member you will get discounts from brokers on leads that are worth while to pay the $3k or less to join?
Oh - I fully expect PPS members to get some discounts and very good, low initial cost entry level opportunities with some brokers. B and B are working on that side of things - and I imagine as the community grows, they will have more negotiation power and thus more and more offers for everyone on the inside.

This is all new territory - so those of us on the inside are paving roads with B and B leading the way so to say. I am personally very excited to see where it will lead to.

Take a look at their presentation for yourself though.

The Pipeline Profits System - $600K

Don't delay... I just now got an email from Buck saying they launch at 12 Noon Thursday (the 18th January) Eastern US time. It's certainly going to be a madhouse!

Hope this helps,

Tim
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Default Re: Pipeline Profits... Warning! - 01-17-2007, 11:53 AM

Hey Timothy,

I came in on this forum from one of your PPC ad Campaigns? Seems strange to me that you would be using an Adwords campaign just to warn us of something you turn around to feel so strongly about??

What's Buck and Biff paying you ?

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Default Re: Pipeline Profits... Warning! - 01-17-2007, 12:19 PM

Hi J

I bought the Pipeline Profits myself 2 months ago through a closed door offer before it was available to the public. My own enthusiasm and warning above are sincere based on experience.

The link above (http://introduction.pipeline-profits.com) is in fact an affiliate link. If you run a serious online business, I don't want you to miss this opportunity just because you may not like clicking on an affiliate link, for this reason, here's a non-affiliate link for you, if it makes you feel more comfortable: http://www.pipeline-profits.com

I am very excited about this system for my own business, but I KNOW it's not for everyone. I hope my impressions help you make the right choice for you.

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Default Re: Pipeline Profits... Warning! - 01-17-2007, 12:46 PM

I have been following these guy's ever since the hype started. I haven't seen anything yet that shows any kind of magical break through, especially in their video's. All the, so called, Internet Guru's are mailing out to their lists today to get all the idiot's (who have money) lined up tomorrow for the big launch. I think I will just sit back for a while and watch the unfolding of Buck & Brocks Magical Pipeline Profits as it takes the Internet by storm. I have also noticed that they are now moderating the coments on their Blog?? I guess some people were starting to catch on and they didn't like the posts that were going up.

This isn't right from sales 101:

"Hope this helps some enquiring minds to either save some hard-earned cash or make a fortune!

Tim

P.S. I obviously can't share any of their system secrets, or insider Roledex info that they offer to members, so please don't ask about that. Thanks."


Come on Tim!!

"here's a non-affiliate link for you, if it makes you feel more comfortable"


[Edited: personal attacks are not acceptable. Moderator.]

Give me a freaking break!!

J

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Default Re: Pipeline Profits... Warning! - 01-17-2007, 01:25 PM

Here's the deal...

What people are missing completely is the fact that co-reg won't make you a fortune, it's nothing more than an acelerated method of showing people your offer. Pipeline profits simply gives solid strategies that are proven to work in this particular form. And yes - this is solid info that will save marketers from making the same learning curve mistakes Brock and Buck made (with Co-Reg this could be very costly).

If you have a sh*t offer that doesn't convert and no backend then you'll lose money on PPC, co-reg or whatever the h*ll traffic you have... if on the other hand you have a proven sales process with a great and very profitable offer, then THAT is what makes the difference!

For those individuals who KNOW they have, or can come up with a strong offer, will take this system to the bank in a big, big way. Simple as that.

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Default Re: Pipeline Profits... Warning! - 01-17-2007, 02:18 PM

Pipeline is great for people like us who know how to
convert an offer.

The newbies who suck at selling are the ones that
are going to have a hard time with this.

Check out this 45 second promo video I did for Pipeline...

Earth Infinity - pipeline

(You may have to hit pause and let the video buffer fully)

(Also, my affiliate link is in the redirect of the movie. So, if
you make it that far, please go back and click Tim's link if you
have any inclination of buying. I just wanted to show you
folks the video, don't care about the commission and would
prefer that Tim gets it if anyone around here is considering
purchasing.)

Or just stop the movie at the end and it won't redirect.
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