I've been spending so much time studying chemistry and biology (some of the dental school pre-requisites) that my confidence and enthusiasm for copywriting has skyrocketed. In other words, I'd like to see if I can work from the ground up with this and see if I reach success; I'm willing to bet that it won't take eight years.

If you're both dedicated and determined, I would say that's a pretty safe bet, HenryH.

Dale King

The only problem is, how do you begin attracting clients? Should I Google online marketing companies and solicit to them?

This thread should give you some ideas.

Dale King

Henry, it may not take 8 years. But you have to learn a craft here. You have to learn selling while you hone your writing skills. The best copywriters I know are not great writers, they are great salespeople and marketers.

Honestly, selling door to door, even for a summer would be a fantastic way to acquire those all important skills. It will also help you to learn how to push past barriers and acquire the mindset that Jason talked about.

But I'm puzzled by your first sentence. How does studying chemistry and biology skyrocket one's enthusiasm for copywriting?

Bests,

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LOL... I think what he means is, "Damn I'm hating all this chemistry and biology... I'm now enthused with being a copywriter! At least there's no bio or chem involved!"

Makes sense. I started out as a chemistry major, then economics, then marketing, and ended up majoring in philosophy...

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Thank you, Vin!

Not only is it a ton of crap to memorize, but none of it can really be applied in "real-life."

A quick example: there are, I think, 5 (or so) electronic geometry shapes and 10 (or more) molecular geometry shapes. These are basically three dimensional models depicting the arrangement of a molecule depending on the molecule's number of electrons. For example, if a molecule's central atom has ::this many:: bonding pairs of electrons (electrons that attach to other atoms) and ::this many: non-bonding pairs of electrons (electrons just hanging off the central atom). Not only do we have to memorize all the different 3D shapes and know how to draw them, but we also have to know WHEN to use them and all the different possible combinations -- such if there are 6 bonding pairs of electrons and 2 non-bonding pairs, or 4 bonding pairs and 3 non-bonding, or 2 bonding pairs and 3 non-bonding, or...gah!

Ahem -- the test will be administered next Tuesday, class. Actually, the biology isn't bad at all, just memorization of terms and concepts...easy.

Of course, I can't complain because I signed up for this, but I know there's an easier path to a six-figure income -- even if it does take 8 years.

Dale, thanks for the link...lots of valuable info in that thread.

Andy & Shawn: that sounds like the ticket (developing marketing skills). Is there a good all-around book that schools you on the essential psychological elements of online copywriting? I don't think a general marketing book is what I'm after; rather, a recently-penned guide with the tactics and techniques that are applicable in internet copywriting (e.g., none of the "marketing your small business" crap) would be on the money.

I don't have $1,000, $500, $200 dollars to throw at a mentor to hold my hand, but I can scrounge up $40 or $50 for a solid, trusty book. Suggestions?

hi.

so the core of the problem is the way to 6 figure income.

a word is PASSION.

noit is just a perception, the two field have their real life application, even if the most abstract one logic and mathematic have real life application.

let take chemistry :

1)molecular geometry:
think about polymers and what they earned for the industry.
think synthetic textil.
think alternative carburent and energy.
think soap.
think detergent industry.

many way to make more then million using chimestry.

again the word PASSION.

now let return to biology:
1)micro biology.
2)enzym.
3)bacterian
think about industrial food.
think abouta way to conserve food.
think about biopharma.
think drug.

many ways to make billion using biology.

so what make the difference with copywriting?

if you think that there is an easy way to earn million then you are in the sate of consummer and you have to evolve to a solution provider state of mind.

again the word PASSION.

without PASSION you will never gain this or any thing in any field.

copywriting isn't the easy way for fortune.

it isn't sufficient to learn, we have to think about how to use what we learn.

hope that it help.

Beautifully said, Abdellah.

No matter what you're doing if it's just for the money, it ain't worth it.

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