Interesting article.

What's up with those expenses?

$20,000 for "subcontractors"?

$4,000 for "website"?

I'm confused...

Yeah, I just say that too.

Hahaha!

I was thinking the exact same thing!

Ok, he hasn't said it but I will make an honest attempt to "model Harlan on this one.

Here goes...

You're absolutely right, you "won't" make a six figure income in your first year!

Oh yeah, how rude of me... Welcome nursewriter!

Great post John!

Damn it, now I'm appearing to be John's stalker...

This is the second post today where I've agreed with everything he has to say... I gotta lay off the NLP stuff for a while... geeesh!

How true...I've a feeling the author *knew* that he won't be making six figures for a long, long time, and like everybody, he was right on

If anyone does a search to my early posts on AWAI, you'll see that my entire problem with them from the very beginning... was the hype.

Not only the hype in the letter (which is so over the top, you can't even see the top below you) but the hype in the course itself!

I remember when I first started (way back in december) the first 100 pages were nothing but continued hype about what a great purchase I made and all the wonderful things they were going to teach me.

Well... they taught me one thing. They inadvertantly taught me to look elsewhere for my real training.

I got that training here on Michel's board as well as with Mike and Matt's apprentice program. The apprentice program got me the most important thing... writing assignments!

In order to really learn, you have to do. And there's no better way to make sure something is as good as you can make it, than by having money on the line.

The fictional character known as Michael Masterson can kiss my ficticious ass.

Edited to add: While I agree with him about AWAI... how in the world could he be a good copywriter working 15 years and he can't pay his bills on 2 sales letters a month? I mean... 15 years! Even if he was making a measly 5K per letter, that's 10 grand a month. Most mortgages would get paid easily on 120,000 a year.

Making 6 figures is totally up to you.

Not AWAI, not Carlton's book, not Gary Halbert's letters,
but YOU!

There is no copy course that will take you to 6 figures.

It is all about your own individual ability to be a salesman.

As far as this article is concerned, I think it's hogwash.

You could totally come out of the AWAI course and make
6 figures. The only reason people don't is because they
are lazy, and THAT'S A FACT!.

It may take you a few years, but if you work at it, you will
make 6 figures, NO DOUBT.

I think there are many resources out there that can help you
get to 100K, including AWAI. The problem is copywriters don't
want it bad enough.

They don't, and I know it for a fact.

People don't want to find jobs, they want them delivered to them
like a Dominoes Pizza.

It's sad too, because there are so many people in the copy field
that can write so much better then I, but will never come close
to closing the amount of deals I will.

If you want 6 figures, you will get it.

If you don't hit 6 figures, you didn't try hard enough.

It really is not that tough, and it's just a numbers game and a
mindset. There are so many potential clients out there it's disgusting.

Most people just have no idea how to put themselves in front of the clients to
display their skills and value.

Jason,

Thank you for that post.
I do believe that if you want something bad enough you will get it.
I visualize myself as being a six figure copywriter in the near future.

As for hard work, Heck I'm a nurse!! 13 hours working days are the norm for me.

But I would much rather work 13 hours for copywriters pay than nursing pay.

nursewriter

I agree 100%, the probelem isn't in the knowledge.

the problem is always in the student.

if a course is less value, then it is not the course to blam it is the student who don't search for better.

many are to talk about AWAI, perhaps they are right perhaps No, go in it use your analytic brain and then be award.

it is not a course that will make you rich it is not a mentor to, the KEY for success is YOU.

it is realy easy to critic but here is the delima :

AWAI offer a formated( such a step by step) copywriting course, with other are to give in that?

each GURU is to establish him self as the person from who to learn.

so beginner (like me) have 2 choice :

1)spend a lot of money going in seminar , and other stuff.
2)taking the first thing that come to them (if thier buget is limited).

and believe me the 2) is to avoid because it is the one that induce in misunderstand the JOB.

it is the one that give birth for all what copywriter are to dislike.

so is it time to make a NEW Copywriter Syndicat?

is it time to make a new group of Copywriter with periodic publication and course etc.. in order to help others?

this board is making a great part of this.(and it is a great thing).

but hope to have more.

people are to ask about inofrmation from people they trust , and they are many here .

My friend it is not to work hard in the way of giving in 13hour a day?!!!

(I do that befor I was working 15 hour a day, evry day of a week and what happen nothing nothing nothing just beeing tiered.)*

to work hard is to fight your self.

when you are to make a copy you have to be :

1)transparent.
2)in thier shoes (that mean empathy).
3)objectif.
4)logic.

... and those need a great work on your self, not just on studing copy.

the important thing to have in mind is it have to make you smile.

each copy is an art piece.

and inspiration never come from making it hard, take time to read this thread.

http://www.copywritersboard.com/copy...html#post25947

hope that help, and smile.

PS: sometime I realy impulssif.

* is perhpas valid in each domain, it isn't the amount of work but the productivity, you can stay 18 hours and to produce nothing so this is just realted to my experience in my field and unfortunely itsn' copywriting but hope that it help you.