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Default Clueless about recent ezinearticle/google success and disapperance - 08-01-2008, 09:01 PM

I need advice on a recent experience with ezinearticles.com and google.

Here recently I published with ezinearticles a high search keyword article and link to my site and low google results on that keyword. The perfect combination.

The same day ezinesarticles released, google placed it at slot 7.

The next morning my article was @ the three slot. It stayed there for this past week.

Then today the article completely disappeared...not 1,2,34,7,10,11 etc.

Looking through my visit log, google visited my site yesterday. I'm left to wonder....

Was this article dropped because:

My webpage had no:

a)<meta name="description" content="">
b) <meta name="keywords" content="">

I know these should be here but in my final push for launch I omitted them. Oops!

and

c) my website is only 1 page

Second question:

What long term effects might this have on my site and how google sees it?

Is the domain doomed? Any hope for a recovery? Is there any chance google will pick this article again if I resubmit through ezinearticles.com

Thanks

Jeremiah
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Default Re: Clueless about recent ezinearticle/google success and disapperance - 08-01-2008, 09:07 PM

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My webpage had no:

a)<meta name="description" content="">
b) <meta name="keywords" content="">
These tags don't mean crap to your placement.

Are/was the same article(s) published on other sites. Is this duplicate content?
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Default Re: Clueless about recent ezinearticle/google success and disapperance - 08-01-2008, 09:47 PM

Phil,

No, not duplicate content.

Copyscape found a water treatment/sewage article also published by ezinearticles to be same in 36 words...

But my article regards kid fun.

I pasted ezinearticle.com address of my article in copyscape and the above came back...

Any ideas????
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Default Re: Clueless about recent ezinearticle/google success and disapperance - 08-02-2008, 02:12 AM

That's what normally happens to new pages in google. They go up real quick, drop out of the results for a few months and then come back in a lower position.
In the end, unless your ezinearticle has good PageRank it will not rank well, unless it's a very low competition term.
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Default Re: Clueless about recent ezinearticle/google success and disapperance - 08-02-2008, 08:17 AM

The article as on ezinarticles.com was indexed and listed not my webpage.

Wouldn't ezinearticles.com good page rank keep the article listed high?

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Default Re: Clueless about recent ezinearticle/google success and disapperance - 08-04-2008, 12:09 AM

I'm not 100% sure I understand your question correctly but if you're talking about the Google ranking for your ezinearticles article my best guess is the quality of backlinks.

When you first submit an article to ezinearticles.com your article is listed on a high page rank page as a "new article".

Then other new articles are listed and yours gets pushed down until it's no longer on that page and no longer has a backlink from a page with a google page rank of 4 or 5.

So Google initially sees the high page rank, ranks your article high and then when it comes back and sees your article no longer has such a high quality backlink it drops the ranking significantly.

That's one theory and it's actually the reason relying solely on other people's Web2.0 sites for your SEO is not such a great idea (although it is a great part of the SEO mix).


Also keep in mind that often you can have a new web page ranked high on google and it will disappear for up to a few days as Google reshuffles its rankings etc.

This is quite common.

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Default Re: Clueless about recent ezinearticle/google success and disapperance - 08-04-2008, 04:12 PM

This is hilarious. For all you pseudo-SEO-scientists out there, stop planting false information into the minds of forum members.

Saying meta-tags don't matter is false. With Google, they make NO difference to PageRank, however in direct tests we've ran, I can categorically PROVE to you that using them wisely aids in your search marketing campaign.

Myth busting continued... PageRank makes NO difference to how your website ranks in Google for ANY term. It's simple a way of gauging how trustworthy a page is in general based on incoming backlinks. Direct affect to ranking? Non whatsoever, at least none large enough to be detected in mass testing.

If you have a crud-load of backlinks pointing to your site for a certain keyword, and your PageRank is 0, you can still rank top of the pile.

So before you guys spit out facts you've read on blogs or picked up from some $7 product, actually do some testing yourself. I test. Like hell. Michel taught me that in Q1 2007 when I first spoke with him... "I'm a testing freak - never stop."

And darn. Once again (and rather unsurprisingly), Michel's right.
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Default Re: Clueless about recent ezinearticle/google success and disapperance - 08-04-2008, 05:42 PM

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This is hilarious. For all you pseudo-SEO-scientists out there, stop planting false information into the minds of forum members.

Saying meta-tags don't matter is false. With Google, they make NO difference to PageRank, however in direct tests we've ran, I can categorically PROVE to you that using them wisely aids in your search marketing campaign.
So - does the "SEO-Scientist" among us care to share any of this proof, or discuss just how to use meta tags wisely?

If you're going to just jump in and criticize people who are trying to be helpful, the least you could do is share some details about what works for you and why.

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Default Re: Clueless about recent ezinearticle/google success and disapperance - 08-05-2008, 06:57 AM

Jeremiah,

The article dosn't start with any page rank on ezinearticles.com. Pagerank is passed along through links on your author page,related article links and any other links you give it. The only thing you inherent from ezinearticles is their trust from google.

Pagerank is important for ranking well. Check out your keyword at: PageRank Search - SEO Tools - Search Engine Optimization, Google Optimization

To increase your pagerank for your article, simply get it viewed more. Highly viewed articles get featured under other articles, this causes lots of links to go to your article.
The other important factor is the title, as it will be the title of the page and it will be the link anchor text on ezinearticles.com.
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Default Re: Clueless about recent ezinearticle/google success and disapperance - 08-06-2008, 04:29 PM

Jeremiah,

Your meta tags probably didn't have too much to do with disappearing from Google. I realize they matter, but not in your direct case.

Ezinearticles links doesn't do a WHOLE lot for your over all ranking in the SERPs. I mean it MIGHT help you some, but not a lot. Search for link:yoursite.com. I'll bet your article (I'm just assuming you linked to your site within the article) doesn't even come up in the results. That just shows you how much Google thinks of those article campaigns.

Time is one of the more important factors to google...although there are ways to beat this. I would say that adding a very small RSS feed to your one-page site might do a lot in getting you back up in rank. Just something towards the bottom that will change every day, but not take too much room.

BTW - Google still uses the Title tags and description tags in their SERPs, and I know for a fact that Yahoo uses keyword tags in their ranking structure. Put a nonsense keyword in your meta tags, and you'll see yourself in a search for that word.


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