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Default Wsj Billion Dollar Letter - 06-02-2008, 06:11 PM

I heard Micheal Senoff talking about a Wall Street Journal Letter that has been mailed a billion times.

Does anyone know which letter he is referring to?

Does anyone have a copy of it?
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Default Re: Wsj Billion Dollar Letter - 06-02-2008, 08:54 PM

I can't post a link yet. Google "Wall Street Journal control Letter". I found the answer to your question at #10.

hope that helps

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Default Re: Wsj Billion Dollar Letter - 06-02-2008, 09:00 PM

By coincidence I can now post a link... here you go

Copywriting: Bruce Barton's Original "Wall Street Journal" Letter

You'll find a link to the letter you asked about on this page. This page will give you some additional info that I think you will find interesting.

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Default Re: Wsj Billion Dollar Letter - 06-02-2008, 09:55 PM

Here is a page with a full swipe of the billion dollar Wall Street Journal Letter control
by the late Martin Conroy...
Copywriting: Wall Street Journal Letter

Here's another famous Wall Street Journal Letter: the 100,000 Mark Reichsbank letter...
Copywriting: Famous Letters

And of course Kenny already gave you the link to Bruce Barton's original "Wall Street
Journal Letter". Most people don't know that the Wall Street Journal letter was a
swipe of this letter...
Copywriting: Bruce Barton's Original "Wall Street Journal" Letter

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh
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Default Re: Wsj Billion Dollar Letter - 06-03-2008, 07:08 AM

According to one direct marketing insider, the WSJ letter is not one to swipe... it never performed that well. And the folks that owned the WSJ didn't care that it didn't perform that well.


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Author of "Killer Techniques to Succeed with Newspaper, Magazine and Yellow Page Advertising" http://www.bignoisemarketing.com/mikesbook.html
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Default Re: Wsj Billion Dollar Letter - 06-04-2008, 06:48 PM

Michael,

That's interesting, because I've heard that they split-tested the heck out of it, and never could beat the control... I know recently someone beating it by making it a little longer and adding some testimonials I think.

Regardless, it's food for thought. You never really know the whole story unless you were there. It's not one I'd swipe though... I don't like writing copy like that.

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Default Re: Wsj Billion Dollar Letter - 06-04-2008, 07:10 PM

Anyone know what beat the 26 year old wall street journal control about the "two men" ?

What are they using today as their control?
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Default Re: Wsj Billion Dollar Letter - 06-05-2008, 01:34 AM

I'm sure Mr Subtle will be thrilled to tell you.

From memory it involved mainly changing the formatting
and the typeset of the letter so it was easier to read
and the order form was more accessible.

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