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Posts: 6 Join Date: Oct 2006 Rep Power: 0 | Have you had problems with Fulfillment Central? A warning. -
10-26-2006, 01:14 AM
Have any of you had problems with this company?
They have come highly recommended by Mike Litman and others. Here's what happened. They set me up to sell my book. Everything is ready, or so I think. I sell two of them. Then I received an e-mail from a US client telling me he didn't received my book, and he bought it 19 days ago. Turns out they didn't even ship it. Same thing for my other client. Why? I have no frickin' idea. They did not tell me why.
Everything was flawless on my end. I can't wait to hear this one explained.
They never told me there was a problem or a time constraint. They never sent me an e-mail to say that it would be shipped later than it was supposed to.
I could have gotten in hot water with the FTC for breaking the 30-day rule...
I sent them an e-mail a few days after the first one was to be shipped, asking for a confirmation that it did go out. I got no reply.
On my ''Thank You Page'' I specify that the book is sent out within 24-72 hours (that is what they told me). A few weeks later, and they still haven't been shipped. Pay several hundred dollars for a book only to wait. I look like an idiot.
Good thing I trusted my gut and took things slowly with them to start with. Make a few sales and see how it goes. Ouch.
I am ticked.
Here are the lessons:
1 - Take things slowly with new companies, even if they come highly recommended.
2 - Always trust your gut. My instinct has always been right.
I'll keep you posted on developments, if there is an interest.
DMA | | | | | Super Moderator
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10-26-2006, 01:59 PM
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I could have gotten in hot water with the FTC for breaking the 30-day rule...
| If you notify them that their shipment is going to be late and give them an opportunity to cancel their order, you should be fine with the FTC. It's when you break the 30 day rule and don't do that where you can get into trouble.
That definitely sucks though. I'm not familiar with that fulfillment company, but I'd say it's time to start looking for another one.
John | | | | | New Member
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10-26-2006, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jdrits If you notify them that their shipment is going to be late and give them an opportunity to cancel their order, you should be fine with the FTC. It's when you break the 30 day rule and don't do that where you can get into trouble.
That definitely sucks though. I'm not familiar with that fulfillment company, but I'd say it's time to start looking for another one.
John | Thanks for your reply John. I'll see what their reasons are. Took the time to calm down before asking for explanations.
If anyone knows a good company, please post here. I'll look into it.
Thanks,
DMA | | | | | Junior Member
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10-26-2006, 11:11 PM
No offense, but shouldn't you do your research first and find out why the orders were messed up. It doesn't make sense complaining about the company when you have no idea what the issue is. It could be any of a thousand issues, and honestly it could be on your end, not theirs. What testing have you done with them? I would hate if it were my company to find this complaint against my company before I had any chance to respond, or test it, or rectify the problem.
The thing is we are responsible for how our businesses run. Doesn't matter if we hire a fullfillment company, we still remain responsible. Especially when working with a new company, it's even more important to stay on top of the situation. It shouldn't be up to the customer to notify us 19 days later that they hadn't received their item. Even if you sent the email a few days after the order, that should have been your first hint that something was not going correctly. At that point, you might have to move it into overdrive, call, fax, email, mail, whatever it took to get in touch to verify that things were working correctly. I'd have called Mike Litman's office, and see if they knew alternative contact numbers, etc. I wouldn't take no for an answer. I once needed an answer from a partner so bad, who had his phone off, I took a round about method of calling everyone I knew who knew him, and finally tracked him down to a meeting in a restaurant and got the manager to give him the phone personally.
I know that if it was a company I just started with, I'd be following up immediately to track the order, and make sure it was fullfilled correctly. From business experience, I've realized that the very first time you do anything, is always when you should be most heavily involved. I probably would pay the price to dry run the first few purchases from dummy transactions(ie a friend or family), that way you can independently verify that everything works correctly. Even if it cost me $100 to test it a few times, it makes sense to do that early enough to catch any problems.
Just my thoughts.
MRomeo | | | | | New Member
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10-26-2006, 11:19 PM
It's surprising to hear this about this company. It has been recommended to me many times.
You definitely want to dry run your order process. Submit your own order and make sure everything from input to output is tight, before you unleash it on your clients.
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10-27-2006, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Graeme J. Dann It's surprising to hear this about this company. It has been recommended to me many times. | Same here. I was literally speechless. | | | | | New Member
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10-27-2006, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MRomeo99 No offense, but shouldn't you do your research first and find out why the orders were messed up. It doesn't make sense complaining about the company when you have no idea what the issue is. It could be any of a thousand issues, and honestly it could be on your end, not theirs. What testing have you done with them? | They still haven't replied to explain. I wouldn't have posted this if there wasn't several other things that happened. It all adds up. So now I really don't trust them. Quote: |
Originally Posted by MRomeo99 The thing is we are responsible for how our businesses run. Doesn't matter if we hire a fullfillment company, we still remain responsible. Especially when working with a new company, it's even more important to stay on top of the situation. It shouldn't be up to the customer to notify us 19 days later that they hadn't received their item. Even if you sent the email a few days after the order, that should have been your first hint that something was not going correctly. At that point, you might have to move it into overdrive, call, fax, email, mail, whatever it took to get in touch to verify that things were working correctly. | I would have have been unrelenting if it wasn't for all the glowing testimonials I've seen from people I trust. My mistake. Quote: |
Originally Posted by MRomeo99 I probably would pay the price to dry run the first few purchases from dummy transactions(ie a friend or family), that way you can independently verify that everything works correctly. Even if it cost me $100 to test it a few times, it makes sense to do that early enough to catch any problems.
Just my thoughts.
MRomeo | Excellent post. Great ideas. Thanks for replying. | | | | | Junior Member
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10-27-2006, 01:00 PM
Think of it this way.
You just hired me as a salesperson for your company. I have glowing recommendations, everyone says how great I am. Are you going to put me out into the field with a stack of paperwork, and check up on me again in a few months? Or are you going to pay extra attention for the first few months, double-checking my orders etc. I'm sure as an astute businessperson you would do so.
The same goes with any other business transactions. Would you take your "big client" out to dinner and test out a credit card you just got in the mail yesterday. Or are you going to use a card you've already tested a few times before?
As far as the glowing recommendations, I don't really know this company nor do I have any affiliation with them. But, as you know in this field many times people stroke each other's ego's and cross promote. When's the last time you've seen a course/book review/testimonial that is actually a true critique. "I like MRomeo99's course, especially the ideas he had on pg 99-101 that I have used personally to bring in at least an extra $25,000 in 2005. However, I have tried what he promoted on pg 112, and that used to work two years ago, but is totally irrelevant now" Yanik Silver
You just don't see them anymore. I take all testimonials with a grain of salt. As I'm sure you will now as well.
For right now however, do what you have to do. I'd probably refund the money to the two customers, and still attempt to get them the product. And I'd call the company non-stop until someone answered. Although just for ****s and giggles I tried to do so myself and got no answer on three people's lines. Have you tried faxing them? Fulfillment Central
808 Garmon Park Court
Loganville, GA 30052 info@fulfillmentcentral.com Office: 770-266-2660
Fax: 770-266-2679
GL,
M | | | | | Super Moderator
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10-27-2006, 01:10 PM
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10-27-2006, 01:32 PM
Marc Goldman, CEO of Goldbar Enterprises and my partner at JVDealmakers.com recently "partnered" his ecommerce system with the fulfillment service I mentioned above. I'm a partner in the company. But, before I was a partner, I was a client... these guys bend over backwards to make sure every i is dotted, every t crossed.
Check out what Marc recently wrote to his list. Quote:
Production and shipping of products are two of the biggest
headaches facing online merchants.
If you sell physical products and you aren't experiencing
Fulfillment headaches of some sort right now - I can pretty
much guarantee you soon will be.
Trust me, I have spent the last 8 years looking for a
reliable company that deserves my business.
I have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars already and
been thru 5 companies and NEVER found someone I could
really ever be proud to call my one and only service provider.
We have endured inefficient and unreliable service providers,
companies that go out of business overnight with no advanced
warning and unaffordable invoices.
We have even gone so far as to try to fulfill our own
products and that alone is enough to kill a person trying
to run a business effectively.
Face these nightmares for too long and your business could
quickly go under.
A couple of months ago I decided I had absolutely had it up
to here with this and resolved to do something about this
situation once and for all.
After years of enduring all of these nightmares, Goldbar
Enterprises has finally found and partnered with a full
service fulfillment company to create an efficient, reliable
and extremely affordable solution called FulfillOne™.
FulfillOne™ plugs directly into our top of the line
ecommerce system GoldbarOne™ and enables you to:
Upload your digital products to the fulfillment company so
they can convert your products into a physical format.
Have your products produced and shipped on demand (no
monthly minimums, no sending pallets of material). Each time
you sell a product, the company will ship it.
Send out automated fulfillment emails to your customers
informing them that their product has been shipped and
providing tracking information for their shipment.
Offer your customers continuity products such as a CD Of the
month club or a print newsletter or consumable products such
as vitamins or juices.
There is nothing like this available through any other
Ecommerce Solution Provider.
It is the world's first automated ecommerce and fulfillment
solution for businesses of any size.
So how can you sign up for it?
Simple.
Go to GoldBarOne and signup for a free 30 day
trial. Click on the Add Ons button (as FulfillOne is a value
added service) and add this module to your account.
You will now be free to roam the planet, growing your
business to new heights and resting easy that your
fulfillment nightmares are over and done with once and for
all.
So what are you waiting for? If you are a merchant selling
physical products online, you have to go and check out
FulfillOne, another amazing addition to GoldbarOne - GoldBarOne
Best of success,
Marc Goldman | The truth is... there are TONS of things that can go wrong in fulfillment. It's nice to know you can trust the people who've "GOT YOUR BACK."
Here's a "short list" of some of the nightmares that can happen.. Quote:
1. screwed up invoicing that caused accounting headaches - Terry spending hours reviewing invoices and finding out we were double billed
2. no quality control - customers sent missing components in their packages
3. incompetent billing
4. incompetent staffing
5. relying on USPS electronic priority (ie stamps.com) as opposed to REAL priority mail
6. packages not delivered
7. packages incomplete
8. using the clients return address as opposed to theirs
9. using their company name with their return address as opposed to MY company name with their address.
10. putting their phone # or literature in my packages selling my customers | Again, PM me... and I'll get you in touch with Bill Karr at the fulfillment house. | | | | |
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