I can’t make donation, would you do that for me ?

I read for a great person here and I want to share a feeling with you.

Kids in need of help and you may do some thing, yes you read it well, they are in need of help and it is not so far from you they are in america, they are here at some kilometre from you they are just waiting for your help.

What would you do, stop reading and to do something else?

If your kids ask for your help, you will never ignore them to go else where.

Please don’t ignore ZAK kids.

Your penny may change thier situation, your dollar will do it better you hundred dollars will make a great service, but you know talking about them to your friend will make it better.

Yes please take time to read this : http://www.pleasehelpmyclass.com/

And then talk about it to your wife, to your husbend, to your kids, mom, dad, to niegbourg to your friend and ask them to talk about to thier friend.

Let this make an earth tour, if you can’t send a penny let your friend send it for you, if your mom can’t make a donnation please do it for here.

Talk about this in your job, in the street, to the men who conduct the bus, to the salesmen behind his stand, to the workers in the street, talk about it in the church any where to any one let just this make an earth tour.

Let it make the first page of time magazine, let it be the spot of cnn, let it be the newest story of a pub in irland, but please talk about them you are thier only chance.

What can you do for them?

Anything, anything. You are welcom to help them but please hurry up because they are in an urgent need of help.

Make donnation, asck your friend to make donnation, let them smile again.

Talk about them but not tommorow, they are in urgent need of help.

PS: sorry if there some mistakes, please if you can make it better feel free to do that but the important is to talk about them. thank you.

Abdellah, you are such a kind and thoughtful person. I really admire you for that.

Janet

I made a small donation and I encourage everyone to pitch in if they feel inclined to do so, even if it's just a small amount...

-- every bit helps.

Thanks Abdellah for posting this... God bless you my friend!

Thank you my friends, JanetB and primoquest hope just that Zac will have a suffisient ressource to help all his kids.

God Bless you all.

1) The sales letter is full of non-sequiturs and quantum leaps in logic. Zac - my advice to you is to slow down and spell it out. There's no logical connection between a kid whose mother has cancer, and that kid being attacked on the street. You're missing out parts of the story, which makes the story hard to understand.

2) There are lots of good causes in the world. I'm not sure I understand why this one suddenly seems more important. I suppose for me it's very simple "charity begins at home" - so I tend to prefer local and national charities, although I give money to Unicef every month. Point being, that if everyone in the world gave money to this cause, then what about all the others. So I actually find Abdellah's pleas on its behalf verging on nauseating. Abdellah - don't you have charitable causes in the country which you live in?

Jane

janebert wrote :

No comment.

Ps: I love you too.

There's nothing nauseating about Abdellah's kindness. If charity begins at home and people find this message board a kind of home, they may feel compelled to donate.

I think the sales letter could have been better too, but I understand that this is a good cause and I made a small donation.

Janet

There's no legislating for feelings. I felt nauseated. OK, maybe that's too literal and too strong. So I'll revise by saying that it seems inappropriate to me.

To me it's inappropriate to worry too much about what's happening to kids IN THE MOST AFFLUENT COUNTRY ON EARTH (for now, at least) when there are far more pressing problems right round the corner. Leave it to the Yanks to sort out.

(And of course, we could get political and ask why the US doesn't have a welfare state that could deal with such problems, instead of relying entirely on Charity to do the job that the state does in all other civilised nations. But let's not go there for now, cos it will only over-stimulate TVWG into another diatribe ...)

Whilst I don't know a huge amount about Algeria, I'm willing to bet that there are kids there in even more dire straits that the kids in SF. Personally, I believe it's more appropriate to deal with the problems on your own doorstep and/or give money to global charities, than to be worrying about one small cause in another country. If Algeria is like other parts of Africa, there are probably children without shoes, clean water or education - that would be my priority.

Obviously it's a value judgement. Those are my values and my feelings, and if I understand the forum rules correctly, I have a right to express them.

Jane

Ok,

so this replay isn't indeed to justify my action, I have just to make clear some point.

1) it is not about me, not about you, not about him, abdellah dosn't mean nothing regarding to these kids it is just about ZAC kids.

2)I believe and I am sure that you arn't to doubth my intention and the truthness of my feeling because I am certain that you are a nice women, a kind one, and you proof it to me at many situation , reading you in this board I can't have an other feeling regarding you.

3) GO IN ACTION AND AVOID STERIL DISCUSSION , as kind as you are I think that you will jump in water to rescue any one how ever he is from, you know why? because he is in a danger and he is a human like you, you will not asck your self may I help this one or the guy from my country, it is not about logic about reasoning it is about an instant emotion, you have just to avoid reflection, steril discussion and to go in action because some one is facing death and perhaps you can help him, so I am certain that you will do because you are a kind person and an emotional one.

4)Discretion : I read one day I don't know where (perhaps in the Bible ) that when you make a charity action you left hand have to ignore what your right hand do, that mean discretion, that mean to preserve the dignity of the one you help and I enjoy this formulation.

in an other reading I learned that a SMILE is a charity, smile to other let other smile, let hapyness shine over you, let hapyness go from you to other and be tolerant.

5)Charity begin at home you used this sentence but you got the wrong interpretation (in my vision), here is my interpretation of this formulation, what that mean charity begin at home, here the home mean the person, charity begin with yourself, and then it is clear, you can help any one if you arn't feeling better, make yourself better and then you can make other situation better, no one will help any one if he is in trouble and this is what this formulation mean, to help our self and how it is possible ?charity begin with your self.

6)misery is all around the world, in Algeria, in USA, in manchester any where misery is there, so what is common to all this abondant misery? people are equal in pain, yes they are equal, we suffer in the same way however we are from algeria or USA, the sufferance is the same and the pain is the same and the tear are the same, so be tolerant we are a damned human so please don't lost this common feeling that we are all equal around the world , and when we understand this we begin to be tolerant and then solidarity happens. think about solidarity.

the lake of solidarity induce the individualism and this is the way for terror (I learn it from my country and I saw it by my eyes, i havn't to read it any where).

7)now let talk about my country as I said misery is all around the orld, so yes there are people in need of help there too, so let say :

'Hey my friend join our effort and ressource to help there and then to go and help else where"

is better then to say

"Sorry no time and no ressource I have the same situation in my country I have to clean near my door" it is all about perception, solidarity and tolerance.

8 ) Yes you are free to share you feeling, you are free to write what do you think and happy that you do, in my first replay I avoid a long answer for one reason :

8-1) it is not about abdellah, the thread is about ZAC KIDS and what can we do for them.

no I make this replay because I have a great respect for you and I have to explain notion that I thinked well known however we are from.

I dislike to make jugement on people , talking about feeling without making jugement on people because my dear friend you don't know what is my situation and what I am doing in my country , and I will be happy to share this with you one day.

now have a nice day and smile.

PS : I love you too.

I think it's more inappopriate to insult Abdellah - and calling his plea nauseating is an insult, no matter how you justify it - than it is for Abellah to make the plea.

But you did take back the word "nauseating."

Many of us in the U.S. don't understand why our country won't help its own most needy. All the more reason why we need to help them ourselves.

A great way to help on an international level - for free - is to visit:

www.thehungersite.com

You can click once a day (not more, that will screw the system up and offer no extra help).

From that site, you can access, the Breast Cancer Site, the Child Health Site, the Literacy Site, the Rainforest Site, and the Animal Rescue Site.

Each one requires only one daily click (and I look at the ads, as the sponsors are funding this).

There is a similar site at:

www.care2.com

Peace,

Janet