Regarding Garry Halbert I think that REBEL is better word for him.

- John Carlton
- Jo Han Mok

I saw thier picture they can't be added to the same group with :

Garry Halbert and Dan Kennedy.

if I have to make a group for this 2 copywriter I will chose this one :

The Old Rebel Harley Davidson Tatoued Copywriters.

The picture also as the writing Influance our jugement and belief.